Bass boat standup swivel seat for my W fishing kayak, by Paul Harrison

Thought I would share an idea I am working on. I became intrigued with having a “standup” pedestal/swivel seat similar to what I have used in bass boats. Some call these leaning posts or butt seats. You are in more of an upright posture for fishing, and for paddling in the case of a Wavewalk kayak.

1st prototype of bass-boat style standup swivel seat for W kayak

I developed a prototype of this idea as shown in the attached photos. I am testing different mounting locations and heights more than the perfect attachment/mounting scheme. This is pretty satisfactory as is with the center of the pedestal 7 inches behind midships and the height of the seat 24 inches above the hull bottom. This works well although I might shim and raise it a few inches when I finalize. Fore/aft balance seemed about right and I can still sit on the saddle in front of it if needed. The various parts are all from Ba$$ Pro except of course the saddle bracket. The fixed pedestal unit has a 7″ rise and a swivel is bolted to the top of it with the butt seat on top of that (need to attend to something at the stern or paddle out backwards? just spin around). There are all sorts of stainless adjustable pedestals and pedestal sockets but this turns into more than I wanted to spend!

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The attachment scheme doesn’t require any holes in the kayak and can be broken down to two major components with a couple of bolts and maybe wing nuts in the final form. It is very secure when installed which was an important goal for me. An advantage is that it doesn’t require altering my saddle bracket or permanently tying it up with this application. I could allow the seat to be moved forward and aft with some more holes in the board that is running down the saddle.

Most importantly I was very pleased with paddling and sitting in this position. Having the seat pedestal to brace against provides great leverage when paddling from this position. Also, it extends the time I can standup paddle due to less need to balance and make adjustments with my feet, which can get tiring after a while (granted, a long while). And the ability to sit and relax at this height while fishing or sightseeing is a big plus. Stability was very good at this seat height and with my 5’10” height. You can use the different sitting positions as you would use on the saddle alone, although feet forward is very comfortable. One would obviously want to stick with more calm waters with this setup but you can always “just sit” on the saddle if things get squirrelly.

I would be interested in ideas to improve this. An obvious choice would be mounting the seat base between two saddle brackets as some have done with lower seats. This might require some additional bracing or a couple bolts in the saddle due to this height (don’t want to hinge the whole assembly off the saddle if applying a lot of pressure). I like not having to permanently use the saddle bracket for this setup though. It just boxes the system in so that it won’t slide forward. It is available to me then for tandem paddling or heavy loads.

Safe paddling …

Paul


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8 thoughts on “Bass boat standup swivel seat for my W fishing kayak, by Paul Harrison”

  1. Looks great, I love it! 🙂

    Thanks Paul.

    This is a concept that’s certainly worth developing –
    Bass boat genes are welcome into this pool which already includes catamaran, jet-ski, kayak and canoe genes 😉

    Yoav

  2. Wow..
    This is great idea.
    Everyday Wkayak make me imagine how to develop..

  3. OK, so here’s my first salvo of technical comments 🙂 –

    I would try to reduce the presence of supporting elements in front on the seat’s leg. It looks like you could benefit from more legroom there.

    Also, this pedestal seat is in the way when you try to enter the kayak’s cockpit from the rear. I would try to make it easily removable, so that you could carry it in when you enter the cockpit, and then quickly install it in its place.
    Two sturdily connected saddle brackets may be enough as a base – You could carry the seat in when you enter the cockpit, and then you just plug in to the saddle. Alternatively, you could have it in the boat and reinstall it after you get in … Such a setup could present another advantage when you take a passenger on board, since you could easily relocate the seat backward or forward.

    Yoav

  4. Very interesting design. It seems like most of the support the pedestal needs is from the back, when you lean on it. I agree that it calls for a kind of “plug in” type of attachment to the saddle.
    Pete

  5. Dear Readers (especially those who do not own a Wavewalk)-

    Mounting options aside, this post and its photographs reveal an undeniable truth about Wavewalk kayaks.

    The top of the bench is 14 inches about the floor of the kayak. The pedestal itself is 7 inches high. The mounting boards appear to add 1 & 1/2 inches. The seat itself adds at least 3 more inches. That adds up to a little over 26 inches. That’s right, he is sitting more than 2 feet above the the bottom of the Wavewalk.

    And what does the author (and note that, like all Wavewalks posts, it includes the writers full name and not a pseudonym like ‘jerkbait88’) say about it?

    “Most importantly I was very pleased with paddling and sitting in this position. Having the seat pedestal to brace against provides great leverage when paddling from this position. Also, it extends the time I can standup paddle due to less need to balance and make adjustments with my feet, which can get tiring after a while (granted, a long while). And the ability to sit and relax at this height while fishing or sightseeing is a big plus. Stability was very good at this seat height and with my 5’10″ height. You can use the different sitting positions as you would use on the saddle alone, although feet forward is very comfortable. One would obviously want to stick with more calm waters with this setup but you can always “just sit” on the saddle if things get squirrelly.”

    To all Wavewalk doubters and critics I suggest the following. Put a 26 inch pedestal seat in any other kayak and then try staying upright and paddling with full confidence.

    The Wavewalk W500, the world’s most stabile kayak, period.

    -Michael

  6. Michael, I agree with what you’re saying, of course, but do you say such things on other fishing kayak websites where sales reps, dealers and so-called “PRO STAFF” from other kayak brands lurk? 😉 –Bob

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