Comments on: Is Rigging Your W Fishing Kayak With a Milk Crate Necessary? http://wavewalk.com/blog/2009/05/29/is-rigging-your-w-fishing-kayak-with-a-milk-crate-necessary/ Kayak Fishing and Paddling: New Standards in Fishing Kayaks. Fishing Kayak Reviews and Kayak Fishing Trip Reports by and for Kayak Anglers Fri, 30 Jul 2010 22:28:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Norm http://wavewalk.com/blog/2009/05/29/is-rigging-your-w-fishing-kayak-with-a-milk-crate-necessary/#comment-1695 Norm Wed, 03 Jun 2009 15:40:10 +0000 http://wavewalk.com/blog/?p=296#comment-1695 Different strokes for different folks. If ya need it ya got it. I like the kayak catch bags if I need more stowage for camping, and you can always stand on top and walk off. Let's face it there isn't anything out there like the wavewalk, so the sky is the limit or the water is, ya know what I mean. Different strokes for different folks. If ya need it ya got it. I like the kayak catch bags if I need more stowage for camping, and you can always stand on top and walk off. Let’s face it there isn’t anything out there like the wavewalk, so the sky is the limit or the water is, ya know what I mean.

]]> By: Moshiko http://wavewalk.com/blog/2009/05/29/is-rigging-your-w-fishing-kayak-with-a-milk-crate-necessary/#comment-1679 Moshiko Sat, 30 May 2009 01:33:20 +0000 http://wavewalk.com/blog/?p=296#comment-1679 No kayak rack No back rest No rudder No hatches No milk crate No BS? ... Do I see a pattern here? Is the real fishing kayak finally emerging out of the unnecessary, over-accessorized, inefficient, uncomfortable, sad and ridiculous current state of things, and into something new, good and real? Looks like it does! No kayak rack
No back rest
No rudder
No hatches
No milk crate

No BS? …

Do I see a pattern here?

Is the real fishing kayak finally emerging out of the unnecessary, over-accessorized, inefficient, uncomfortable, sad and ridiculous current state of things, and into something new, good and real?
Looks like it does!

]]> By: jk http://wavewalk.com/blog/2009/05/29/is-rigging-your-w-fishing-kayak-with-a-milk-crate-necessary/#comment-1678 jk Sat, 30 May 2009 01:02:16 +0000 http://wavewalk.com/blog/?p=296#comment-1678 It all seems to boil down to one thing, which is that regular sot and sik kayaks offer no choice but to use a milk crate, with all the problems associated, and w kayaks offer a choice between using a milk crate and not using it. JK It all seems to boil down to one thing, which is that regular sot and sik kayaks offer no choice but to use a milk crate, with all the problems associated, and w kayaks offer a choice between using a milk crate and not using it.
JK

]]> By: Pez D. Spencer http://wavewalk.com/blog/2009/05/29/is-rigging-your-w-fishing-kayak-with-a-milk-crate-necessary/#comment-1677 Pez D. Spencer Fri, 29 May 2009 22:48:56 +0000 http://wavewalk.com/blog/?p=296#comment-1677 A milk crate at the stern of your kayak works like a rudder, except that instead of you controlling the rudder it's the wind that does. This air rudder makes your yak want to turn in the direction where the wind is coming from. It can make things harder for you, especially if you have a lot of stuff sticking out from the milk crate, and you're paddling on an open stretch of water, where the wind has more power. Pez A milk crate at the stern of your kayak works like a rudder, except that instead of you controlling the rudder it’s the wind that does. This air rudder makes your yak want to turn in the direction where the wind is coming from. It can make things harder for you, especially if you have a lot of stuff sticking out from the milk crate, and you’re paddling on an open stretch of water, where the wind has more power.
Pez

]]> By: Jeff McGovern http://wavewalk.com/blog/2009/05/29/is-rigging-your-w-fishing-kayak-with-a-milk-crate-necessary/#comment-1675 Jeff McGovern Fri, 29 May 2009 22:15:13 +0000 http://wavewalk.com/blog/?p=296#comment-1675 Well, first of all the demise of the milk crate would bring much happiness to the owners of countless grocery stores around the country. So many kayaks out there have crates with the name of all sorts of grocery chains and in fine print the horrible sanctions folks face for stealing them. Use of a crate really depends on the type of fishing you might be doing. Here in Florida our kayak fishing is a shallow water exercise in most cases. Launching is always wet since you must get to water deep enought to float the kayak in the first place. I'm very used to wading out to proper depth and then getting in. When I first paddled with Yoav he almost had heart failure when I waded off a perfectly dry ramp to enter the boat, pure habit on my part. The crate rigging I use keeps rods directly behind my shoulders straight up. It's out of the way and allows me to fight powerful saltwater inshore fish not having to worry about a rod catching anything. Mind you even smaller saltwater fish will take you for a ride. Another place it helps, the crate that is, is when wading with the W. No matter what sometimes the most silent way to fish is on foot. We can actually see big reds in the grass tailing or snook waiting to ambush on a shoreline. Standing next to the boat the crate puts the rods right at hand for quick changes. For example at a miss with a topwater I can put up one rod and switch to a subsurface bait in moments for the next cast. For those of you who have seen shots of my rigged W's notice as well nothing in front of me sticking up or out. That's all battle space and at times it gets very busy. My crate rig now hold three rods rigged and ready available with one quick over the shoulder grab like an arrow from a quiver. There are of course many other "out of the crate" options with the new W500 over the original W. As I get one rigged and play with it those will be shared. Now there are times I do remove the crate. If I'm playing in creeks and backwaters through under growth tunnels the crate is too high. With that type of fishing it's sort of hand to hand combat at close range. What makes it more exciting are the gators competing for the same fish. You just have to remember to leave an area if little cute baby gators are around. Mama loses all fear of anything if those babies even squeak. Trust me at that point you can't paddle fast enough and if you carry a gun it's too little. My out of the box thinking for the new boat really should include torpedos. The W boats offer loads of new and inovation ways to fish. We are only scratching the surface right now. Those of us that have fished these for some time will need to continue to be creative in our rigging and set up. These boats are a whole new ball game representing a new a better way to fish from small craft. Yoav deserves so much credit from the anglers of the world for coming up with the W kayaks. Well, first of all the demise of the milk crate would bring much happiness to the owners of countless grocery stores around the country. So many kayaks out there have crates with the name of all sorts of grocery chains and in fine print the horrible sanctions folks face for stealing them. Use of a crate really depends on the type of fishing you might be doing. Here in Florida our kayak fishing is a shallow water exercise in most cases. Launching is always wet since you must get to water deep enought to float the kayak in the first place. I’m very used to wading out to proper depth and then getting in. When I first paddled with Yoav he almost had heart failure when I waded off a perfectly dry ramp to enter the boat, pure habit on my part. The crate rigging I use keeps rods directly behind my shoulders straight up. It’s out of the way and allows me to fight powerful saltwater inshore fish not having to worry about a rod catching anything. Mind you even smaller saltwater fish will take you for a ride. Another place it helps, the crate that is, is when wading with the W. No matter what sometimes the most silent way to fish is on foot. We can actually see big reds in the grass tailing or snook waiting to ambush on a shoreline. Standing next to the boat the crate puts the rods right at hand for quick changes. For example at a miss with a topwater I can put up one rod and switch to a subsurface bait in moments for the next cast. For those of you who have seen shots of my rigged W’s notice as well nothing in front of me sticking up or out. That’s all battle space and at times it gets very busy. My crate rig now hold three rods rigged and ready available with one quick over the shoulder grab like an arrow from a quiver. There are of course many other “out of the crate” options with the new W500 over the original W. As I get one rigged and play with it those will be shared. Now there are times I do remove the crate. If I’m playing in creeks and backwaters through under growth tunnels the crate is too high. With that type of fishing it’s sort of hand to hand combat at close range. What makes it more exciting are the gators competing for the same fish. You just have to remember to leave an area if little cute baby gators are around. Mama loses all fear of anything if those babies even squeak. Trust me at that point you can’t paddle fast enough and if you carry a gun it’s too little. My out of the box thinking for the new boat really should include torpedos. The W boats offer loads of new and inovation ways to fish. We are only scratching the surface right now. Those of us that have fished these for some time will need to continue to be creative in our rigging and set up. These boats are a whole new ball game representing a new a better way to fish from small craft. Yoav deserves so much credit from the anglers of the world for coming up with the W kayaks.

]]> By: Roxanne http://wavewalk.com/blog/2009/05/29/is-rigging-your-w-fishing-kayak-with-a-milk-crate-necessary/#comment-1671 Roxanne Fri, 29 May 2009 19:11:51 +0000 http://wavewalk.com/blog/?p=296#comment-1671 Yoav, if you noticed, in the beginning I used milk crates on My W300. Though they added more storage, they did get in my way getting in and out of the yak, And they were a problem when the winds kicked up. I've removed them, never to attach them again. I added a side rod holder for extra rods, (I'm still working on the best design for that.) I also use a easy on and off rod holder, made by Tite-Lok, which I can move and positioned in any angle when needed. Plus, I attached my transducer to my rod holder, which I can use on Both models. :) Big Bonus! Remember, The W300 and W500 are a whole new yak when it comes to the traditional rigging. Think out of the box people, just like Yoav did when he designed these wonderful pleasure, fishing, touring, camping, WaveWalk models!! Tight lines Rox Yoav, if you noticed, in the beginning I used milk crates on
My W300.

Though they added more storage, they did get in my way getting in and out of the yak, And they were a problem when the winds kicked up.

I’ve removed them, never to attach them again.

I added a side rod holder for extra rods, (I’m still working on the best design for that.)

I also use a easy on and off rod holder, made by Tite-Lok, which I can move and positioned in any angle when needed.
Plus, I attached my transducer to my rod holder, which I can use
on Both models. :) Big Bonus!

Remember, The W300 and W500 are a whole new yak when it comes
to the traditional rigging.

Think out of the box people, just like Yoav did when he designed these
wonderful pleasure, fishing, touring, camping, WaveWalk models!!

Tight lines
Rox

]]> By: April Leder http://wavewalk.com/blog/2009/05/29/is-rigging-your-w-fishing-kayak-with-a-milk-crate-necessary/#comment-1670 April Leder Fri, 29 May 2009 18:39:46 +0000 http://wavewalk.com/blog/?p=296#comment-1670 When I see a milk crate attached on top of any kayak I can't help thinking that it could make it harder for the passengers to climb back in, or on board in case they've capsized. (My two cents) April When I see a milk crate attached on top of any kayak I can’t help thinking that it could make it harder for the passengers to climb back in, or on board in case they’ve capsized.
(My two cents)
April

]]> By: Pete http://wavewalk.com/blog/2009/05/29/is-rigging-your-w-fishing-kayak-with-a-milk-crate-necessary/#comment-1669 Pete Fri, 29 May 2009 16:29:41 +0000 http://wavewalk.com/blog/?p=296#comment-1669 Marco, you can have your cake and eat it too: The W500 is so stable that you can launch it with its bow serving as a stern just for the launching act, so you can get in without stepping in water, and then you can easily turn around in the cockpit and face the bow. This way the stern can have a milk crate attached on top of it, except when you use it as a bow. Just a thought... ;-) Pete Marco, you can have your cake and eat it too:
The W500 is so stable that you can launch it with its bow serving as a stern just for the launching act, so you can get in without stepping in water, and then you can easily turn around in the cockpit and face the bow.
This way the stern can have a milk crate attached on top of it, except when you use it as a bow.
Just a thought… ;-)
Pete

]]> By: Marco http://wavewalk.com/blog/2009/05/29/is-rigging-your-w-fishing-kayak-with-a-milk-crate-necessary/#comment-1668 Marco Fri, 29 May 2009 16:22:31 +0000 http://wavewalk.com/blog/?p=296#comment-1668 This is a good article that raises some valid questions, and makes good observations. As for myself, getting into my W without ever stepping in water is such a pleasure that I wouldn't do anything that could force me to get inside from the side, and step in water. Marco This is a good article that raises some valid questions, and makes good observations. As for myself, getting into my W without ever stepping in water is such a pleasure that I wouldn’t do anything that could force me to get inside from the side, and step in water.
Marco

]]> By: fishtuna http://wavewalk.com/blog/2009/05/29/is-rigging-your-w-fishing-kayak-with-a-milk-crate-necessary/#comment-1667 fishtuna Fri, 29 May 2009 15:47:37 +0000 http://wavewalk.com/blog/?p=296#comment-1667 interesting points, I need to know there's a milk crate behind me, but maybe the new generations of w kayak fishermen and women who didn't fish in sots and siks before wouldn't have this need? interesting points,
I need to know there’s a milk crate behind me, but maybe the new generations of w kayak fishermen and women who didn’t fish in sots and siks before wouldn’t have this need?

]]> By: Fish Wiz http://wavewalk.com/blog/2009/05/29/is-rigging-your-w-fishing-kayak-with-a-milk-crate-necessary/#comment-1666 Fish Wiz Fri, 29 May 2009 15:38:07 +0000 http://wavewalk.com/blog/?p=296#comment-1666 True, but I guess I just got used to it... FW True, but I guess I just got used to it…
FW

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