Comments on: How Effective Can A Fishing Kayak’s Outriggers Be? http://wavewalk.com/blog/2009/02/25/how-effective-can-a-fishing-kayaks-outriggers-be/ The World's Best Fishing Kayaks Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:18:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Graham R http://wavewalk.com/blog/2009/02/25/how-effective-can-a-fishing-kayaks-outriggers-be/#comment-3132 Graham R Mon, 15 Mar 2010 14:50:04 +0000 http://wavewalk.com/blog/?p=238#comment-3132 I'm not a big fan of outriggers, because in order to offer enough initial, or primary stability they need to be very close to the water. This means that they do touch the water on occasion, especially if the water is choppy, and that's not good for tracking. If they're not close to the water, we're already dealing with a secondary stability issue, and only large size outriggers can help you then. As we know, big outriggers can't be lightweight, and they tend to catch the wind. Just curious - what are you planning to do when your sea kayak capsizes? The outriggers will prevent you from rolling it, and you'll get entrapped: http://wavewalk.com/blog/2008/01/29/getting-trapped-in-a-kayak/ Graham I’m not a big fan of outriggers, because in order to offer enough initial, or primary stability they need to be very close to the water. This means that they do touch the water on occasion, especially if the water is choppy, and that’s not good for tracking.
If they’re not close to the water, we’re already dealing with a secondary stability issue, and only large size outriggers can help you then. As we know, big outriggers can’t be lightweight, and they tend to catch the wind.

Just curious – what are you planning to do when your sea kayak capsizes? The outriggers will prevent you from rolling it, and you’ll get entrapped: http://wavewalk.com/blog/2008/01/29/getting-trapped-in-a-kayak/

Graham

]]> By: Robert http://wavewalk.com/blog/2009/02/25/how-effective-can-a-fishing-kayaks-outriggers-be/#comment-3131 Robert Mon, 15 Mar 2010 12:31:33 +0000 http://wavewalk.com/blog/?p=238#comment-3131 I own a 17 ' sea kayak. It is fast, and very unstable. 21 " across the beam. I bought a pair of outriggers which are adjustable up, down and sideways. They stay out of the water untill they are needed and therefore they do not decrease my speed. They weigh 15 lbs. I do not sacrifice anything but a small amount of weight. I can take them on or off in less than one minute. I would not go without them. I can also practice bracing without the fear of rolling over. I have been in some very rough seas and have yet not had any problems. I own a 17 ‘ sea kayak. It is fast, and very unstable. 21 ” across the beam. I bought a pair of outriggers which are adjustable up, down and sideways. They stay out of the water untill they are needed and therefore they do not decrease my speed. They weigh 15 lbs. I do not sacrifice anything but a small amount of weight. I can take them on or off in less than one minute. I would not go without them. I can also practice bracing without the fear of rolling over. I have been in some very rough seas and have yet not had any problems.

]]> By: admin http://wavewalk.com/blog/2009/02/25/how-effective-can-a-fishing-kayaks-outriggers-be/#comment-2750 admin Sun, 03 Jan 2010 18:32:06 +0000 http://wavewalk.com/blog/?p=238#comment-2750 Greg, IMO 64 lbs of buoyancy won't suffice for a 55 lbs motor, because on top of its weight the motor acts on the boat with its own power, and not always in a way you want it to. I'd use at least 3 times more buoyancy, if I were you, just to be on the safe side, which is the only side you want to be on :D As for calculating the effect of the outrigger's distance from the boat, you can use simple lever formulas. Greg,

IMO 64 lbs of buoyancy won’t suffice for a 55 lbs motor, because on top of its weight the motor acts on the boat with its own power, and not always in a way you want it to.
I’d use at least 3 times more buoyancy, if I were you, just to be on the safe side, which is the only side you want to be on :D

As for calculating the effect of the outrigger’s distance from the boat, you can use simple lever formulas.

]]> By: Greg http://wavewalk.com/blog/2009/02/25/how-effective-can-a-fishing-kayaks-outriggers-be/#comment-2749 Greg Sun, 03 Jan 2010 18:10:57 +0000 http://wavewalk.com/blog/?p=238#comment-2749 I have a place in NW Ontario that I leave a canoe and like to fish with a 4 horse motor on it. It can be treacherous to fish with a 55 pound motor mounted on the side of the stern of a canoe. I have been doing some research on outriggers and have found that floats afford as much buoyancy as the weight of water that could be held by them(minus their own weight). That means that an outrigger that has a volume of 1 cubic foot would provide 64 pounds of buoyancy(the weight of 1 cubic foot of water). So to counter the effects of my 55 pound motor on the side of the canoe I would have to have approximately one cubic foot of floatation on the same side of the canoe as the motor. What I don't understand is as I move the outrigger out away from the center point of the canoe, how much buoyancy do I pick up? I understand that it increases as the outrigger moves out but what is the formula? Any help? I am thinking I could put just one outrigger on the canoe, on the same side of the canoe as the motor. It would be like the Hawaiian outriggers, providing buoyancy on the side it is on and also leveraged weight to counter a tip of the canoe in the opposite direction. That leaves one side of the canoe open for landing fish, pulling up for shore lunches, etc also. There are some pretty cool aluminum torpedo shaped fuel tanks on that look like they might work great. I am trying to decide how big I need and how far to put my outrigger out. Don't Forget to Set the Hook. Thanks, Greg I have a place in NW Ontario that I leave a canoe and like to fish with a 4 horse motor on it. It can be treacherous to fish with a 55 pound motor mounted on the side of the stern of a canoe. I have been doing some research on outriggers and have found that floats afford as much buoyancy as the weight of water that could be held by them(minus their own weight). That means that an outrigger that has a volume of 1 cubic foot would provide 64 pounds of buoyancy(the weight of 1 cubic foot of water). So to counter the effects of my 55 pound motor on the side of the canoe I would have to have approximately one cubic foot of floatation on the same side of the canoe as the motor. What I don’t understand is as I move the outrigger out away from the center point of the canoe, how much buoyancy do I pick up? I understand that it increases as the outrigger moves out but what is the formula? Any help? I am thinking I could put just one outrigger on the canoe, on the same side of the canoe as the motor. It would be like the Hawaiian outriggers, providing buoyancy on the side it is on and also leveraged weight to counter a tip of the canoe in the opposite direction. That leaves one side of the canoe open for landing fish, pulling up for shore lunches, etc also. There are some pretty cool aluminum torpedo shaped fuel tanks on that look like they might work great. I am trying to decide how big I need and how far to put my outrigger out.

Don’t Forget to Set the Hook.

Thanks,
Greg

]]> By: Nitta http://wavewalk.com/blog/2009/02/25/how-effective-can-a-fishing-kayaks-outriggers-be/#comment-1582 Nitta Thu, 14 May 2009 00:00:58 +0000 http://wavewalk.com/blog/?p=238#comment-1582 I agree that we have extra cost to using outriggers in fishing kayak. Nice posting.. I agree that we have extra cost to using outriggers in fishing kayak.
Nice posting..

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