Comments on: Are Sit-on-Top (SOT) Fishing Kayaks Safe For Offshore Fishing? http://wavewalk.com/blog/2008/09/22/are-sit-on-top-sot-fishing-kayaks-safe-for-offshore-fishing/ Kayak Fishing and Paddling Info, Stories and Movies. The New Standard in Fishing Kayaks. Tue, 06 Jan 2009 12:51:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: Avaz_Bob http://wavewalk.com/blog/2008/09/22/are-sit-on-top-sot-fishing-kayaks-safe-for-offshore-fishing/#comment-1174 Avaz_Bob Mon, 15 Dec 2008 20:42:35 +0000 http://wavewalk.com/blog/?p=165#comment-1174 Like many other products, fishing SOTs are over hyped to a point where many people feel they must own one just because it's "Cool"... and then they discover that it's not that cool to suffer from a wet butt and sore back for hours :D Bob Like many other products, fishing SOTs are over hyped to a point where many people feel they must own one just because it’s “Cool”… and then they discover that it’s not that cool to suffer from a wet butt and sore back for hours :D
Bob

]]> By: Knucklewalker http://wavewalk.com/blog/2008/09/22/are-sit-on-top-sot-fishing-kayaks-safe-for-offshore-fishing/#comment-1173 Knucklewalker Mon, 15 Dec 2008 20:37:17 +0000 http://wavewalk.com/blog/?p=165#comment-1173 Sit on top kayaks are just glorified paddle boards outfitted with a nasty combination of foot rests and back rest that's guaranteed to hurt your back. Sit on top kayaks are just glorified paddle boards outfitted with a nasty combination of foot rests and back rest that’s guaranteed to hurt your back.

]]> By: admin http://wavewalk.com/blog/2008/09/22/are-sit-on-top-sot-fishing-kayaks-safe-for-offshore-fishing/#comment-1170 admin Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:08:53 +0000 http://wavewalk.com/blog/?p=165#comment-1170 Ron, You can use expanding foam from cans or mix two components in a cup and pour it in. You just need to do this job gradually, using small quantities of foam at a time because the expanding foam could deform the hull. Our experience with foam is that side flotation is the most effective, and therefore we offer all our new models with it, standard. Yoav Ron,

You can use expanding foam from cans or mix two components in a cup and pour it in. You just need to do this job gradually, using small quantities of foam at a time because the expanding foam could deform the hull.

Our experience with foam is that side flotation is the most effective, and therefore we offer all our new models with it, standard.

Yoav

]]> By: Carp http://wavewalk.com/blog/2008/09/22/are-sit-on-top-sot-fishing-kayaks-safe-for-offshore-fishing/#comment-1165 Carp Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:33:55 +0000 http://wavewalk.com/blog/?p=165#comment-1165 It costs money to fill those sots with foam, and it makes them heavier. Carp It costs money to fill those sots with foam, and it makes them heavier.
Carp

]]> By: Ron Wagner http://wavewalk.com/blog/2008/09/22/are-sit-on-top-sot-fishing-kayaks-safe-for-offshore-fishing/#comment-1164 Ron Wagner Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:26:04 +0000 http://wavewalk.com/blog/?p=165#comment-1164 Seems like all kayaks should have maximum closed cell foam in all hollow areas not needed for legs or storage. There should be some ways to retrofit this, even if using spray expanded foam from cans. Would appreciate any info on best way to do this. I think SOTs are much safer for all but the fully trained and skilled ocean kayaker in good pysical shape and properly dressed for falling in the water, or rolling. I am curious why manufacturers don't fill with closed cell foam. Probably to keep weight down, and buoyancy up. Keep the kayak sleeker etc. I would prefer a heavier kayak, with wheels for getting to the water. Seems like all kayaks should have maximum closed cell foam in all hollow areas not needed for legs or storage. There should be some ways to retrofit this, even if using spray expanded foam from cans. Would appreciate any info on best way to do this. I think SOTs are much safer for all but the fully trained and skilled ocean kayaker in good pysical shape and properly dressed for falling in the water, or rolling. I am curious why manufacturers don’t fill with closed cell foam. Probably to keep weight down, and buoyancy up. Keep the kayak sleeker etc. I would prefer a heavier kayak, with wheels for getting to the water.

]]> By: Fish Wiz http://wavewalk.com/blog/2008/09/22/are-sit-on-top-sot-fishing-kayaks-safe-for-offshore-fishing/#comment-1100 Fish Wiz Wed, 12 Nov 2008 20:35:41 +0000 http://wavewalk.com/blog/?p=165#comment-1100 Sea coyote, The guy who wrote that review must have felt perfectly safe too when he launched his kayak that day ;) FW Sea coyote,
The guy who wrote that review must have felt perfectly safe too when he launched his kayak that day ;)
FW

]]> By: sea coyote http://wavewalk.com/blog/2008/09/22/are-sit-on-top-sot-fishing-kayaks-safe-for-offshore-fishing/#comment-1098 sea coyote Wed, 12 Nov 2008 17:03:01 +0000 http://wavewalk.com/blog/?p=165#comment-1098 I don't disagree with what's said here, I just want to say that personally I feel safe fishing in the ocean with my [SOT brand name] yak. I never go fishing alone of course. I don’t disagree with what’s said here, I just want to say that personally I feel safe fishing in the ocean with my [SOT brand name] yak. I never go fishing alone of course.

]]> By: Carp http://wavewalk.com/blog/2008/09/22/are-sit-on-top-sot-fishing-kayaks-safe-for-offshore-fishing/#comment-1012 Carp Mon, 27 Oct 2008 23:36:02 +0000 http://wavewalk.com/blog/?p=165#comment-1012 The older your kayak gets the less reliable the plastic becomes, and the more prone to cracking and leaking. I agree it's more of a problem in sots than in other types of kayaks. The older your kayak gets the less reliable the plastic becomes, and the more prone to cracking and leaking. I agree it’s more of a problem in sots than in other types of kayaks.

]]> By: admin http://wavewalk.com/blog/2008/09/22/are-sit-on-top-sot-fishing-kayaks-safe-for-offshore-fishing/#comment-948 admin Mon, 06 Oct 2008 14:48:44 +0000 http://wavewalk.com/blog/?p=165#comment-948 Yes, by filling the hull with cast urethane foam. Doing so is a long and elaborate process, and it's risky too since the expanding foam might distort the hull. In any case, since neither SOT kayaks nor urethane foam are particularly lightweight, the result might be that the kayak would be too heavy to cartop easily. Yes, by filling the hull with cast urethane foam. Doing so is a long and elaborate process, and it’s risky too since the expanding foam might distort the hull.
In any case, since neither SOT kayaks nor urethane foam are particularly lightweight, the result might be that the kayak would be too heavy to cartop easily.

]]> By: Mitch_P http://wavewalk.com/blog/2008/09/22/are-sit-on-top-sot-fishing-kayaks-safe-for-offshore-fishing/#comment-947 Mitch_P Mon, 06 Oct 2008 14:41:38 +0000 http://wavewalk.com/blog/?p=165#comment-947 I wonder is there a way to make a sot kayak totally safe? thank you Mitch I wonder is there a way to make a sot kayak totally safe?
thank you
Mitch

]]> By: Pete http://wavewalk.com/blog/2008/09/22/are-sit-on-top-sot-fishing-kayaks-safe-for-offshore-fishing/#comment-935 Pete Fri, 03 Oct 2008 14:01:02 +0000 http://wavewalk.com/blog/?p=165#comment-935 Great article, and great discussion! Anything that inspires overconfidence can be dangerous. With sots you don't expect problems, and when you have one it takes you too long to realize it, and sometime it can be too late, and that's the real danger. Pete Great article, and great discussion!
Anything that inspires overconfidence can be dangerous. With sots you don’t expect problems, and when you have one it takes you too long to realize it, and sometime it can be too late, and that’s the real danger.
Pete

]]> By: LeblancF http://wavewalk.com/blog/2008/09/22/are-sit-on-top-sot-fishing-kayaks-safe-for-offshore-fishing/#comment-930 LeblancF Wed, 01 Oct 2008 21:15:47 +0000 http://wavewalk.com/blog/?p=165#comment-930 This is a provocative article but it sure gave me some food for thought. Frank This is a provocative article but it sure gave me some food for thought.
Frank

]]> By: HerbS http://wavewalk.com/blog/2008/09/22/are-sit-on-top-sot-fishing-kayaks-safe-for-offshore-fishing/#comment-920 HerbS Sat, 27 Sep 2008 13:14:07 +0000 http://wavewalk.com/blog/?p=165#comment-920 SIK, SOTs and W kayaks each have their own pros and cons for offshore fishing. I think the most important is not to go fishing out in the ocean all by yourself. SIK, SOTs and W kayaks each have their own pros and cons for offshore fishing. I think the most important is not to go fishing out in the ocean all by yourself.

]]> By: PatrickTT http://wavewalk.com/blog/2008/09/22/are-sit-on-top-sot-fishing-kayaks-safe-for-offshore-fishing/#comment-913 PatrickTT Tue, 23 Sep 2008 21:06:18 +0000 http://wavewalk.com/blog/?p=165#comment-913 That's a scary report and a sobering article. I think I'll stick to fresh water fishing for now :) --Pat That’s a scary report and a sobering article. I think I’ll stick to fresh water fishing for now :) –Pat

]]> By: Fish Wiz http://wavewalk.com/blog/2008/09/22/are-sit-on-top-sot-fishing-kayaks-safe-for-offshore-fishing/#comment-912 Fish Wiz Tue, 23 Sep 2008 17:59:29 +0000 http://wavewalk.com/blog/?p=165#comment-912 I agree with what bluefish and others have said here: You can't overestimate the importance of comfort and ergonomics. The more comfortable the kayak the safer it is. F.W. I agree with what bluefish and others have said here: You can’t overestimate the importance of comfort and ergonomics. The more comfortable the kayak the safer it is.
F.W.

]]> By: April Leder http://wavewalk.com/blog/2008/09/22/are-sit-on-top-sot-fishing-kayaks-safe-for-offshore-fishing/#comment-906 April Leder Tue, 23 Sep 2008 00:33:33 +0000 http://wavewalk.com/blog/?p=165#comment-906 The more people discuss kayak safety the better. April The more people discuss kayak safety the better.
April

]]> By: Marco http://wavewalk.com/blog/2008/09/22/are-sit-on-top-sot-fishing-kayaks-safe-for-offshore-fishing/#comment-905 Marco Mon, 22 Sep 2008 22:04:46 +0000 http://wavewalk.com/blog/?p=165#comment-905 From what i read it seems the guy who wrote the capsize report is an experienced kayak fisherman and in good shape. I think the results of this capsize would have been different had he been inexperienced and in poor shape, as kayak fishermen sometimes are. --Marco From what i read it seems the guy who wrote the capsize report is an experienced kayak fisherman and in good shape. I think the results of this capsize would have been different had he been inexperienced and in poor shape, as kayak fishermen sometimes are.
–Marco

]]> By: Avaz_Bob http://wavewalk.com/blog/2008/09/22/are-sit-on-top-sot-fishing-kayaks-safe-for-offshore-fishing/#comment-904 Avaz_Bob Mon, 22 Sep 2008 21:11:25 +0000 http://wavewalk.com/blog/?p=165#comment-904 Whoever wrote that capsize report did a good thing, and this article is also important because if allows kayak fishermen to better understand and evaluate the risks they're facing. Bob Whoever wrote that capsize report did a good thing, and this article is also important because if allows kayak fishermen to better understand and evaluate the risks they’re facing.
Bob

]]> By: Cole http://wavewalk.com/blog/2008/09/22/are-sit-on-top-sot-fishing-kayaks-safe-for-offshore-fishing/#comment-903 Cole Mon, 22 Sep 2008 19:26:59 +0000 http://wavewalk.com/blog/?p=165#comment-903 You can't expect the government to supervise each and every individual and make sure they behave rationally and responsibly. All those stories about mountain climbers that get caught in avalanches or freeze to death, kayakers that have terrible accidents, and similar stuff shouldn't make it to the news' headlines. It looks like our society glorifies reckless behavior. Cole You can’t expect the government to supervise each and every individual and make sure they behave rationally and responsibly. All those stories about mountain climbers that get caught in avalanches or freeze to death, kayakers that have terrible accidents, and similar stuff shouldn’t make it to the news’ headlines. It looks like our society glorifies reckless behavior.
Cole

]]> By: Quebec Seakayaker http://wavewalk.com/blog/2008/09/22/are-sit-on-top-sot-fishing-kayaks-safe-for-offshore-fishing/#comment-902 Quebec Seakayaker Mon, 22 Sep 2008 19:18:28 +0000 http://wavewalk.com/blog/?p=165#comment-902 Aren't the authorities supposed to regulate those things when they are related to safety? QSK Aren’t the authorities supposed to regulate those things when they are related to safety?
QSK

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