Comments on: Getting Trapped in a Kayak http://wavewalk.com/blog/2008/01/29/getting-trapped-in-a-kayak/ W kayak fishing and paddling. Info, videos, stories and articles for W kayak fishermen and paddlers. Sat, 22 Nov 2008 10:09:28 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: noseclip http://wavewalk.com/blog/2008/01/29/getting-trapped-in-a-kayak/#comment-1125 noseclip Wed, 19 Nov 2008 16:18:45 +0000 http://wavewalk.com/blog/2008/01/29/getting-trapped-in-a-kayak/#comment-1125 What happens if you lose your nose clips? ;-) What happens if you lose your nose clips? ;-)

]]> By: Quebec Seakayaker http://wavewalk.com/blog/2008/01/29/getting-trapped-in-a-kayak/#comment-1124 Quebec Seakayaker Wed, 19 Nov 2008 15:00:45 +0000 http://wavewalk.com/blog/2008/01/29/getting-trapped-in-a-kayak/#comment-1124 True. It always seemed to me like a beach game for whitewater kayakers who just love to be trashed. QS True.
It always seemed to me like a beach game for whitewater kayakers who just love to be trashed.
QS

]]> By: tomp http://wavewalk.com/blog/2008/01/29/getting-trapped-in-a-kayak/#comment-1123 tomp Wed, 19 Nov 2008 14:54:15 +0000 http://wavewalk.com/blog/2008/01/29/getting-trapped-in-a-kayak/#comment-1123 surf kayaking was never big surf kayaking was never big

]]> By: Sam_P http://wavewalk.com/blog/2008/01/29/getting-trapped-in-a-kayak/#comment-1122 Sam_P Wed, 19 Nov 2008 14:48:36 +0000 http://wavewalk.com/blog/2008/01/29/getting-trapped-in-a-kayak/#comment-1122 I would say the same about traditional surf kayaking. Sam P I would say the same about traditional surf kayaking.
Sam P

]]> By: 232yak http://wavewalk.com/blog/2008/01/29/getting-trapped-in-a-kayak/#comment-1121 232yak Wed, 19 Nov 2008 14:44:06 +0000 http://wavewalk.com/blog/2008/01/29/getting-trapped-in-a-kayak/#comment-1121 Traditional sea kayaking had its good days back in the nineties, and it's been dying since then. What's the point in discussing it now? Traditional sea kayaking had its good days back in the nineties, and it’s been dying since then. What’s the point in discussing it now?

]]> By: Pete http://wavewalk.com/blog/2008/01/29/getting-trapped-in-a-kayak/#comment-1120 Pete Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:08:46 +0000 http://wavewalk.com/blog/2008/01/29/getting-trapped-in-a-kayak/#comment-1120 It's true though. QS wasn't trying to pull your leg. It can be very unpleasant when your nasal cavities get filled with water, especially if it's salt water. Pete It’s true though. QS wasn’t trying to pull your leg. It can be very unpleasant when your nasal cavities get filled with water, especially if it’s salt water.
Pete

]]> By: Warren http://wavewalk.com/blog/2008/01/29/getting-trapped-in-a-kayak/#comment-1119 Warren Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:02:45 +0000 http://wavewalk.com/blog/2008/01/29/getting-trapped-in-a-kayak/#comment-1119 nice try QS, I almost believed you for a second ! :D Warren nice try QS, I almost believed you for a second ! :D
Warren

]]> By: Quebec Seakayaker http://wavewalk.com/blog/2008/01/29/getting-trapped-in-a-kayak/#comment-1118 Quebec Seakayaker Tue, 18 Nov 2008 18:41:03 +0000 http://wavewalk.com/blog/2008/01/29/getting-trapped-in-a-kayak/#comment-1118 When you're upside down in the water the air escapes your nasal cavities because it's lighter than water. Some traditional sea kayakers use nose clips to prevent water from getting in. QS When you’re upside down in the water the air escapes your nasal cavities because it’s lighter than water. Some traditional sea kayakers use nose clips to prevent water from getting in.
QS

]]> By: Warren http://wavewalk.com/blog/2008/01/29/getting-trapped-in-a-kayak/#comment-1117 Warren Tue, 18 Nov 2008 18:11:59 +0000 http://wavewalk.com/blog/2008/01/29/getting-trapped-in-a-kayak/#comment-1117 nose clips?? what for? nose clips?? what for?

]]> By: Pete http://wavewalk.com/blog/2008/01/29/getting-trapped-in-a-kayak/#comment-1111 Pete Tue, 18 Nov 2008 14:50:46 +0000 http://wavewalk.com/blog/2008/01/29/getting-trapped-in-a-kayak/#comment-1111 Forrest, You say "In high winds, strong currents, or big swells, inside the hull of a 17 foot kayak is where I prefer to be". I assume you didn't try a W-kayak, did you? If you can't actually compare two experiences, in what sense do you "prefer" your traditional kayak? Pete Forrest,

You say “In high winds, strong currents, or big swells, inside the hull of a 17 foot kayak is where I prefer to be”.
I assume you didn’t try a W-kayak, did you? If you can’t actually compare two experiences, in what sense do you “prefer” your traditional kayak?

Pete

]]> By: Moshiko http://wavewalk.com/blog/2008/01/29/getting-trapped-in-a-kayak/#comment-1110 Moshiko Tue, 18 Nov 2008 14:45:44 +0000 http://wavewalk.com/blog/2008/01/29/getting-trapped-in-a-kayak/#comment-1110 Do you put the nose clips on before or after you pull on the handle? Moshiko Do you put the nose clips on before or after you pull on the handle?
Moshiko

]]> By: Lawrence http://wavewalk.com/blog/2008/01/29/getting-trapped-in-a-kayak/#comment-1109 Lawrence Tue, 18 Nov 2008 14:45:07 +0000 http://wavewalk.com/blog/2008/01/29/getting-trapped-in-a-kayak/#comment-1109 A handle! Now that changes everything, doesn't it? After all, half your body may be stuck in a narrow hull, but since you're upside down gravity is on your side, literally! I'll bet most people can get out of an overturned sea kayak in less than a couple of minutes, no big deal. Those who can't should keep practicing. Now I predict that once the world gets to know about the spray skirt handle millions of ordinary kayakers would convert to high efficiency sea kayaks. This will surely happen very soon since good news travel fast! Knowing that, I'm going to start stocking nose clips, since I sense their price is going to sky rocket... :D :D :D Larry A handle! Now that changes everything, doesn’t it?
After all, half your body may be stuck in a narrow hull, but since you’re upside down gravity is on your side, literally!
I’ll bet most people can get out of an overturned sea kayak in less than a couple of minutes, no big deal. Those who can’t should keep practicing.

Now I predict that once the world gets to know about the spray skirt handle millions of ordinary kayakers would convert to high efficiency sea kayaks. This will surely happen very soon since good news travel fast! Knowing that, I’m going to start stocking nose clips, since I sense their price is going to sky rocket…
:D :D :D

Larry

]]> By: Forrest http://wavewalk.com/blog/2008/01/29/getting-trapped-in-a-kayak/#comment-1108 Forrest Tue, 18 Nov 2008 07:23:48 +0000 http://wavewalk.com/blog/2008/01/29/getting-trapped-in-a-kayak/#comment-1108 Spray skirts have a handle on the front; grab it and pull. I failed a roll yesterday, and had to do a wet exit and re-entry. It took about a second to get out of the boat. Wish I could say that was the worst experience in my life... Everybody has their own taste in boats, and how they use them. In high winds, strong currents, or big swells, inside the hull of a 17 foot kayak is where I prefer to be. It takes more skill to use a traditional boat, but when you need as much speed ( efficiency ) as you can get, Spray skirts have a handle on the front; grab it and pull. I failed a roll yesterday, and had to do a wet exit and re-entry. It took about a second to get out of the boat. Wish I could say that was the worst experience in my life…

Everybody has their own taste in boats, and how they use them. In high winds, strong currents, or big swells, inside the hull of a 17 foot kayak is where I prefer to be. It takes more skill to use a traditional boat, but when you need as much speed ( efficiency ) as you can get,

]]> By: Herb http://wavewalk.com/blog/2008/01/29/getting-trapped-in-a-kayak/#comment-1007 Herb Sat, 25 Oct 2008 00:01:09 +0000 http://wavewalk.com/blog/2008/01/29/getting-trapped-in-a-kayak/#comment-1007 interesting discussion interesting discussion

]]> By: Sam_P http://wavewalk.com/blog/2008/01/29/getting-trapped-in-a-kayak/#comment-887 Sam_P Tue, 16 Sep 2008 13:29:53 +0000 http://wavewalk.com/blog/2008/01/29/getting-trapped-in-a-kayak/#comment-887 I expect the following knee-jerk reaction from some die-hard kayakers: "That guy was careless and must have made a serious judgment error to get stuck like that in a fallen tree."... These people ignore the fact that serious kayaking accidents, including entrapment, happen to experienced kayakers as well as inexperienced ones. At least he stayed alive. Sam P I expect the following knee-jerk reaction from some die-hard kayakers: “That guy was careless and must have made a serious judgment error to get stuck like that in a fallen tree.”…
These people ignore the fact that serious kayaking accidents, including entrapment, happen to experienced kayakers as well as inexperienced ones.
At least he stayed alive.
Sam P

]]> By: Quebec Seakayaker http://wavewalk.com/blog/2008/01/29/getting-trapped-in-a-kayak/#comment-886 Quebec Seakayaker Tue, 16 Sep 2008 13:22:47 +0000 http://wavewalk.com/blog/2008/01/29/getting-trapped-in-a-kayak/#comment-886 This is terrible. If anyone needed a reminder on how dangerous traditional sit-in kayaks can be, this is definitely it. Q.S.K. This is terrible. If anyone needed a reminder on how dangerous traditional sit-in kayaks can be, this is definitely it.
Q.S.K.

]]> By: April Leder http://wavewalk.com/blog/2008/01/29/getting-trapped-in-a-kayak/#comment-885 April Leder Tue, 16 Sep 2008 13:17:44 +0000 http://wavewalk.com/blog/2008/01/29/getting-trapped-in-a-kayak/#comment-885 Here is a terrible example of kayak entrapment in whitewater. It happened in Australia: http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,24348196-1243,00.html April Here is a terrible example of kayak entrapment in whitewater. It happened in Australia:
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,24348196-1243,00.html
April

]]> By: admin http://wavewalk.com/blog/2008/01/29/getting-trapped-in-a-kayak/#comment-575 admin Wed, 21 May 2008 19:59:20 +0000 http://wavewalk.com/blog/2008/01/29/getting-trapped-in-a-kayak/#comment-575 April, Polyethylene boats get stiffer in cold water too, especially resins that are used in touring kayaks for their higher rigidity, and they might crack as a result, although it's less likely to happen than with composite boats that have thin walls in order to make them lighter. Caveman, - I changed that kayak's brand name to a technical description simply because I don't want people to spam this blog with covert ads, and I also wouldn't want people to badmouth other manufacturers. April,
Polyethylene boats get stiffer in cold water too, especially resins that are used in touring kayaks for their higher rigidity, and they might crack as a result, although it’s less likely to happen than with composite boats that have thin walls in order to make them lighter.

Caveman, - I changed that kayak’s brand name to a technical description simply because I don’t want people to spam this blog with covert ads, and I also wouldn’t want people to badmouth other manufacturers.

]]> By: April Leder http://wavewalk.com/blog/2008/01/29/getting-trapped-in-a-kayak/#comment-574 April Leder Wed, 21 May 2008 19:45:30 +0000 http://wavewalk.com/blog/2008/01/29/getting-trapped-in-a-kayak/#comment-574 It's scary, and assuming you manage to bail out, eventually - you still might not see your expensive kayak ever again because it'll sink to the bottom. Composite boats can become brittle in cold water, and thin walled ones are more likely to crack because of stress or impact. April It’s scary, and assuming you manage to bail out, eventually - you still might not see your expensive kayak ever again because it’ll sink to the bottom.
Composite boats can become brittle in cold water, and thin walled ones are more likely to crack because of stress or impact.
April

]]> By: caveman http://wavewalk.com/blog/2008/01/29/getting-trapped-in-a-kayak/#comment-573 caveman Wed, 21 May 2008 19:33:22 +0000 http://wavewalk.com/blog/2008/01/29/getting-trapped-in-a-kayak/#comment-573 Hey cameik, before 'admin' graciously edited your message it still had the name of your kayak... and i went to their website where a disclaimer said you should stay away from rocks when you're paddling their high tech kayak because if it hit a rock it might crack...-Weren't you scared when you surfed with it? It's not just a question about being entrapped in a kayak but in a sinking one with a fractured hull that's leaking! wooo! Hey cameik, before ‘admin’ graciously edited your message it still had the name of your kayak… and i went to their website where a disclaimer said you should stay away from rocks when you’re paddling their high tech kayak because if it hit a rock it might crack…-Weren’t you scared when you surfed with it? It’s not just a question about being entrapped in a kayak but in a sinking one with a fractured hull that’s leaking! wooo!

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